What I breed


It all started with First Cross (F1) Labradoodles but over the years we have investigated a number of crosses. Hybrid dogs are usually lovely animals but the increasing (understandable) demand for a non shedding coat has led to a change in emphasis on our breeding program. F1 Labradoodles usually shed some hair but F1 Goldendoodles and Cavoodles have softer often wavy coats, not many of them shed and the temperament combination in these dogs is also excellent

Backcross labradoodles – bred from our own line of medium (or Moyen) Poodles – are also unlikely to shed hair.  We occasionally breed Moyen poodles usually for replacement breeding dogs.

If you click on the photos  below you will see more pictures of dogs we have bred over the years

These dogs are bred from selected F1 Labradoodles bred to an unrelated male “Moyen” poodle. They are 3/4 poodle and 1/4 Labrador. Most of them don’t shed at all. Their Poodle heritage is mixed – with 1/8th Standard Poodle and the remainder a mix of Toy and Miniature. Standard poodles tend to be calm sensible dogs – certainly the ones we have used were – and the cross benefits from this infusion so that our Backcross Labradoodles are smart and attentive like all poodles, but are calmer than one might expect if only the smaller poodles were used.

Our Backcross Labradoodles are bred from either Toy Poodle sires in which case they are quite small or we breed medium sized dogs from our Moyen Poodles or from Luigi our Lagotto Romagnolo X poodle ( you could call them Latin Backcross Labradoodles if you like). Louie, like his Lagotto father Roman, is a very calm sensible dog and physically he has a broader head than the poodles, which means that his pups will be a little less poodle like, and we see occasional variations in colour with patches of white and shades of chocolate in his pups.

Paris - one of our earliest backcross dogs

Paris – one of our earliest backcross dogs

Oh Dear! Perhaps the Lagotto infusion wasn't such a great idea? His owners think he was framed - a likely story

Oh Dear! Perhaps the Lagotto infusion wasn’t such a great idea? His owners claim he was framed – a likely story.

Golden Labradoodles are puppies from a Golden retriever X Labrador Retreiver mother and a Toy or Miniature Poodle father. This cross has even greater “heterosis” that a first cross and takes advantage of the complementarity between three breeds.

Three breed crosses are the most popular in agricultural cross breeding – the classic example is the production of fat lambs in Australia. A Merino X Border Leicester mother (known throughout the sheep industry simply as a ‘First Cross Ewe” ) is crossed with a Dorset ram. The ewes are bred in western NSW – first cross lambs are stronger and faster growing than merino lambs and the females are very fertile, have strong maternal behaviour and produce a lot of milk.. They are bought by farmers from more reliable country (if such country exists any more) and bred to Dorset rams (a meat breed) to produce a fast growing muscular meat lamb which is the basis of the Australian fat lamb industry.

The logic of our three breed cross is that the first cross mother benefits from hybrid vigour and so is more fertile and a better mum. Physically she combines the long softer coat of the Golden Retriever with the coarse Lab coat – these girls have short, soft coats, when combined with the poodle coat, on average half of their puppies will have with the longer, soft, lower shedding coats that people like. Temperamentally she combines the softer gentler, somewhat shyer, Golden Retriever temperament with the more exuberant Labrador and so the Golden Labradoodles are just a bit gentler and more laid back – at least that is the theory and it seems to be working in practice.

Lillee a Golden Labradoodle

Lillee a Golden Labradoodle

Goldendoodles were first bred in the US and were named by the Sterling family in Canada. They are called Groodles in Australia (Goldendoodle seems just too silly for most of us ) but I liked the name Blue Sterling and her family came up with and so I still use the original name (It’s OK you can call then Groodles!). Blue has put together a fantastic site on goldendoodles and information about their coats and shedding propensities is all discussed there in great detail.

Goldendoodles are beautiful dogs. Our dog Morris (doing a “Lion King” impersonation in the rainforest of Cape York on the home page) the best dog in all the world and surprisingly my daughter’s dog Little Brown (now large and gold) is either the best or second best dog in the world depending on which family member one speaks to. Mind you Danny, our first Labradoodle was also a strong contender for the title of best dog in the world even if he did shed hair.

I tend to use the Moyen Poodles to breed these dogs so they are usually quite large – up to Golden Retriever sized. The reports we have are of intelligent, gentle and lovable dogs. They aren’t as outgoing as labradoodles as a rule and we have had a couple of reports of dogs being excessively shy. The parents of these dogs aren’t in our breeding program any more and recent reports have been good. Most have heavy coats which need regular clipping but occasionally a dog will have a lighter low shed coat. I haven’t heard of any heavy shedding Goldendoodles (if you are reading this and want to contradict – please fill out a questionnaire!)

Gus Rose - a large F1 Goldendoodle (or very small children?)

Gus Rose – a large F1 Goldendoodle (or very small children?)

Cavalier King Charles Spaniel X Poodles are a well known and since Julia Gillard acquired Reuben (proving herself to be braver than Obama who bowed to public pressure and bought a purebred Portuguese Water dog rather than a Goldendoodle) Cavoodles are probably the number one crossbred dog in Australia. There is good reason for this – the cross makes excellent sense and they are lovely dogs

The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel is a dear little dog that has been bred specifically as a pet for hundreds of years. Because their purpose has been to be a cute cuddly companion to the upper classes they have been selected for several hundred years for a gentle, sweet natured, non-aggressive temperament. They aren’t the smartest dogs in the world but they are far from the least trainable (scoring 44 out of 80 on Stanley Coren’s ranking). Structurally they are quite sound except for their heads – they have a shortened face and concurrent soft palate problems which can lead to heat intolerance if they are overweight, domed heads which can cause breeding difficulties and a crippling brain disease called syringomyelia (reported in Pedigree Dogs Exposed), and protruding eyes which can be easily damaged. They have long coats, which usually shed a great deal of hair, and heart problems (mitral valve disease) are a particular problem in Cavalier King Charles Spaniels.

Poodles have narrow heads, small eye sockets and they are very intelligent – but they can be a bit snitchy with strangers and a bit temperamental some times.

”Cavoodles” are small to medium sized, reasonably intelligent, shaggy, low to non shedding dogs. They have normal sized eye sockets and so their eyes don’t protrude but they have a rounded head and marked check so they have very pretty faces without being extreme. They are excellent indoor pets and would suit a family or single person with a smaller yard.

In keeping with my preference for medium sized dogs I use my larger Moyen Poodle females to breed our Cavoodles. They are leggier than most Cavoodles and are very athletic small/medium sized dogs (usually 8-12 kg)

knox blaze cavoodle

I first heard the name Moyen Poodle used by David Armstrong a geneticist with a passionate interest in breeding healthy poodles. He was describing a cross between Miniature and Standard Poodles. I chose to use Toy and Standard dogs because I wanted my dogs to be as small as possible.

The “Moyens” are great dogs – extremely smart and very people oriented and loyal. Poodles are remarkable dogs. The are circus dogs because of their brains, not their fluffy hair. They are loved by their owners but not necessarily by anyone else because they can be standoffish with strangers. In the Toys this can result in “yapping” at people but the Standards usually show only a dignified reserve with strangers. Our Moyens behave like Standards – they rarely bark.

Our first dog Frank was bred from a black Standard and a black Toy Poodle. We then bred an apricot Toy to a white standard called CC, giving us Chantelle and Shelby (now retired) and finally we bred Jim (chocolate) from Wendy (a chocolate standard) and Pete (a toy) and Neville from Wendy and Cedric ( a gold mini X toy).

 

Xian with a ball

Xian with a ball